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		<title>By: Nicky Vogg</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutsolitaire.co.uk/2010/02/05/when-did-it-become-the-norm/comment-page-1/#comment-10643</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicky Vogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Bruce.  

We do have an Association run by a Barrister who advised me that we cannot get rid off Solitaire. I will send him the link and see waht he has to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Bruce.  </p>
<p>We do have an Association run by a Barrister who advised me that we cannot get rid off Solitaire. I will send him the link and see waht he has to say.</p>
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		<title>By: bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutsolitaire.co.uk/2010/02/05/when-did-it-become-the-norm/comment-page-1/#comment-10149</link>
		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 05:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some info on &quot;rentcharge&quot; : 



http://www.go-nw.gov.uk/gonw/PeopleSustainableCommunities/Housing/Rentcharges/?a=42496</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some info on &#8220;rentcharge&#8221; : </p>
<p><a href="http://www.go-nw.gov.uk/gonw/PeopleSustainableCommunities/Housing/Rentcharges/?a=42496" rel="nofollow">http://www.go-nw.gov.uk/gonw/PeopleSustainableCommunities/Housing/Rentcharges/?a=42496</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nicky.Vogg</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutsolitaire.co.uk/2010/02/05/when-did-it-become-the-norm/comment-page-1/#comment-9893</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicky.Vogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you all, your contributions mean a lot not just for me but for other too, who may dig out their leases/land registry to investigate.

I checked the land Registry Number, which is: NGL:428112

The builder has created freehold houses and 4 blocks( leasehold ?). We the freeholders are named as Grantor. The ‘Perpetuity Period’ means a period of 85 years which is only applicable for the communal amenities areas, access road and so forth.

It states,
“The Grantor as beneficial owner hereby grants to the company the perpetual yearly estate rentcharges of (a) fixed rentcharge of £5.00 and (b) a sum hereinafter called the ‘variable rent charge’”
 “The Company has agreed to provide maintenances services in consideration of the grant to it of the rentcaharge ……”

The communal area is not leasehold at all as I thought. As far as my understanding is that our council, builder or land owner have created a “cash cow” by giving the communal land to the Management Company for 85 years at the same time pay rent for it.

Am I the one who got properties with faults or is it norm as may be one doesn’t  read ones  legal documentation?

Any suggestions will be most welcome. Perhaps admin can add to their list to take to PM with petition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all, your contributions mean a lot not just for me but for other too, who may dig out their leases/land registry to investigate.</p>
<p>I checked the land Registry Number, which is: NGL:428112</p>
<p>The builder has created freehold houses and 4 blocks( leasehold ?). We the freeholders are named as Grantor. The ‘Perpetuity Period’ means a period of 85 years which is only applicable for the communal amenities areas, access road and so forth.</p>
<p>It states,<br />
“The Grantor as beneficial owner hereby grants to the company the perpetual yearly estate rentcharges of (a) fixed rentcharge of £5.00 and (b) a sum hereinafter called the ‘variable rent charge’”<br />
 “The Company has agreed to provide maintenances services in consideration of the grant to it of the rentcaharge ……”</p>
<p>The communal area is not leasehold at all as I thought. As far as my understanding is that our council, builder or land owner have created a “cash cow” by giving the communal land to the Management Company for 85 years at the same time pay rent for it.</p>
<p>Am I the one who got properties with faults or is it norm as may be one doesn’t  read ones  legal documentation?</p>
<p>Any suggestions will be most welcome. Perhaps admin can add to their list to take to PM with petition.</p>
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		<title>By: bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutsolitaire.co.uk/2010/02/05/when-did-it-become-the-norm/comment-page-1/#comment-9890</link>
		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should cost 3 or 4 pds to buy a copy of the freehold property title from Land Registry online ( same for a leasehold title ). Just type in the postal code of the property and you will be offered the freehold title or leasehold title (if applicable) to choose.  

And costs about 25 pds if you want to buy a  copy of the  lease for which a application form is required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should cost 3 or 4 pds to buy a copy of the freehold property title from Land Registry online ( same for a leasehold title ). Just type in the postal code of the property and you will be offered the freehold title or leasehold title (if applicable) to choose.  </p>
<p>And costs about 25 pds if you want to buy a  copy of the  lease for which a application form is required.</p>
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		<title>By: Nirmal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nirmal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicky,
You need to complete form OC1 from the Land Registry:

http://www.landreg.gov.uk/assets/library/documents/oc1.pdf

You can complete the form online and print it out (you can&#039;t save it with your personal details) or just print it and complete by hand.

You then need to send this to the Land Registry Telford Office:

Land Registry Telford Office
Parkside Court
Hall Park Way
Telford
TF3 4LR

TEL: 01952 290355

with the Application Fee - which I think is around £25 but call the Land Registry first and confirm.

Hope that helps?
Nirmal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicky,<br />
You need to complete form OC1 from the Land Registry:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.landreg.gov.uk/assets/library/documents/oc1.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.landreg.gov.uk/assets/library/documents/oc1.pdf</a></p>
<p>You can complete the form online and print it out (you can&#8217;t save it with your personal details) or just print it and complete by hand.</p>
<p>You then need to send this to the Land Registry Telford Office:</p>
<p>Land Registry Telford Office<br />
Parkside Court<br />
Hall Park Way<br />
Telford<br />
TF3 4LR</p>
<p>TEL: 01952 290355</p>
<p>with the Application Fee &#8211; which I think is around £25 but call the Land Registry first and confirm.</p>
<p>Hope that helps?<br />
Nirmal</p>
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		<title>By: bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutsolitaire.co.uk/2010/02/05/when-did-it-become-the-norm/comment-page-1/#comment-9799</link>
		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicky,

Buy a copy of the property title for your house and see what it says.  If you own 100% of the freehold, then you should not be paying rent .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicky,</p>
<p>Buy a copy of the property title for your house and see what it says.  If you own 100% of the freehold, then you should not be paying rent .</p>
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		<title>By: Nicky Vogg</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutsolitaire.co.uk/2010/02/05/when-did-it-become-the-norm/comment-page-1/#comment-9775</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicky Vogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No my terraced house is 100% freehold and only share communal area . 

The Community Centre is leasehold on the lease, which does not say a part leasehold and a part freehold.  Solitaire may be using 2 companies for leasehold and freehold. First they made it inhabitable due to neglect and then bought for nothing but have been charging us for the upkeep. 

We are charged for sweeping the roads  in our development but usually wind does the work.  Last time, I saw sweepers working, who informed me that they are employed by the council. I am wondering if council has adopted the road now without my knowledge. My neighbor told me that Council is trying to use the Community Centre for crèche which we will be opposing.  Something is being cooked. 

Andy must respond now to throw some light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No my terraced house is 100% freehold and only share communal area . </p>
<p>The Community Centre is leasehold on the lease, which does not say a part leasehold and a part freehold.  Solitaire may be using 2 companies for leasehold and freehold. First they made it inhabitable due to neglect and then bought for nothing but have been charging us for the upkeep. </p>
<p>We are charged for sweeping the roads  in our development but usually wind does the work.  Last time, I saw sweepers working, who informed me that they are employed by the council. I am wondering if council has adopted the road now without my knowledge. My neighbor told me that Council is trying to use the Community Centre for crèche which we will be opposing.  Something is being cooked. </p>
<p>Andy must respond now to throw some light.</p>
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		<title>By: bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutsolitaire.co.uk/2010/02/05/when-did-it-become-the-norm/comment-page-1/#comment-9772</link>
		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that Barratts have been selling leasehold houses on 155 years lease in Stoke on Trent area. This matter was raised by a prospective buyer of a leasehold house at the Landlordzone forum  under thread no. 25734</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that Barratts have been selling leasehold houses on 155 years lease in Stoke on Trent area. This matter was raised by a prospective buyer of a leasehold house at the Landlordzone forum  under thread no. 25734</p>
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		<title>By: bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutsolitaire.co.uk/2010/02/05/when-did-it-become-the-norm/comment-page-1/#comment-9771</link>
		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicky,

Are you buying your property under a part own/part rent scheme where you have bought say 50% of the freehold and renting the other 50% ?

You need to buy a copy of the &quot;freehold title&quot; from Land Registry Online and check whether the freeholder is your self  OR  yourself plus another party.  Also there may be some information attached to title documents  regarding the annual payment for maintenance of communal areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicky,</p>
<p>Are you buying your property under a part own/part rent scheme where you have bought say 50% of the freehold and renting the other 50% ?</p>
<p>You need to buy a copy of the &#8220;freehold title&#8221; from Land Registry Online and check whether the freeholder is your self  OR  yourself plus another party.  Also there may be some information attached to title documents  regarding the annual payment for maintenance of communal areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Bella</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutsolitaire.co.uk/2010/02/05/when-did-it-become-the-norm/comment-page-1/#comment-9763</link>
		<dc:creator>Bella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicky,
You may be interested to know NH is leaving Peverel on 19th Feb.
Replacement is a KG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicky,<br />
You may be interested to know NH is leaving Peverel on 19th Feb.<br />
Replacement is a KG.</p>
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